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When is doing something bad?

Written by on 01 August, 2011 : 11:19

Most people won't know but I am chiefly responsible for managing the League's Facebook and Twitter pages. It's a thoroughly rewarding role. I really enjoy being able to interact with supporters every single day and then again with an organisation like the League you also get to interact with opponents, which can be altogether less fun. 

The majority of the hunting community online, (well at least the ones who try to and I hestitate to use the word engage because it's more browbeat) are very strident and at times downright unpleasant. However, corresponding with the farming community over the proposed badger cull while it has been sad particularly when hearing about individual herds affected by bovine TB, it has been unfailingly civil. 

Draw your own conclusions from that if you will.

I like to think it shows both how comfortable and secure that farmers are with their place in society and the rural economy. It could just be that people who like to hunt animals for fun aren't that nice as people. 

A common refrain is “something has to be done”. It sums up the desperation felt in the farming community with regard to TB in cattle and shows the Government in poorer light for trying to sell this false prospectus to the country.

Something should be done, but science shows that perturbation can actually cause an increase in bTB transferring the disease to hitherto unaffected badgers, even if successful the most optimistic assessment says a cull can reduce bTB in cattle by 16% and that those affects are not sustained in the long term.

Something should be done and that's a vaccine to tackle 100% of the problem not 16% if we're lucky. DEFRA admit that that's the long term answer but cancelled five out of six vaccine trials last June on the grounds of cost and ask farmers to pay for a DIY cull knowing full well that it may cost them more money than they save. I think this is both a very shabby way to treat both farmers and badgers.

Conservative blogger Graeme Archer summed this policy up for me when he said it managed to be uniquely "irrevelant, malicious and ineffective".

8 comments

Janet
Hi James, I was recently looking at your facebook page and in particular the post you made about the gory death of an umbrella waving man at a bull run in spain. I was quite shocked at the evident delight that many of your supporters too n the manner of this man's death. It seems that these people had gathered round to cheer a hideous death in exactly the same manner as hunters and other cruel sports participants are often accused of dong so. Would you accept that some of these people are possibly not very pleasant? And does LACS condemn their comments?
Jonny
I agree with Janet above. Taking pleasure from suffering and death is wrong whether they are humans or animals.
James (League Against Cruel Sports)
Janet, You can tell what we think from the two statements we made about this. First that we "feel sorry for the man's family but what did he expect taunting a bull?" And secondly, "Please keep any comments related to the cruelty that the animals suffer. A man has died, along with the bulls, there's nothing to be happy about in this story" Our policy is to allow for a very vigorous debate on our pages as long as it stays within the bounds of acceptability and this allows views to be expressed on both sides of the debate that we do not necessarily agree with. However, if you have any comments that your particularly concerned about. I will look at those and see if any merit deletion or further action. Please email campaigns@league.org.uk and I will endeavour to get back to you speedily. Best Wishes James
Jonny
wrt vaccination isn't it true that it doesn't solve 100% of the problem either? It seems to me that in general some wildlife does need to be managed especially that which is artificially at the top of the food chain such as foxes deer and badgers. If we don't control their numbers they will end up being controlled by disease outbreaks due to overcrowding such as has occurred at your sanctuaries. Such a situation is surely worse for animal welfare?
jonny
Just saw your post James why don't you leave the comments there but add a comment to say you utterly condemn your supporter's despicable display of hatred and delight in death? Also I have seen many civil comments on there from pro hunters deleted because you say they are 'trolls'.
Rory
I think sometimes the hunters do make some good points that LACS are unable to answer so they end up deleting them. For example your support for some of the exemptions in the law which are clearly very badly thought through.
Rory
Also you should let Giles Bradshaw on there, He is actually rather funny and he makes some pretty good ponts about the welfare implications of shooting deer.
Reggie
In awe of that asnwer! Really cool!

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