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Repeal off the agenda

Written by on 07 January, 2011 : 11:55

It has been an interesting Christmas and New Year, with the hunters in full retreat. Paper after paper has run with the line that the government are not going to bring the Hunting Act debate back to parliament any time soon - and quite possibly never. Even the Sunday Telegraph, usually such a friend to the hunters, cast doubt on the chances of repeal.

While the hunters have been frustrated by snow and frost, the political commentators have been focussing on the fact that the parliamentary arithmetic does not favour repeal of the Hunting Act and in fact shows that any vote on repeal would be lost.

With repeal of the Hunting Act now in the political long grass, the hunters are wondering what to do. Whatever the Countryside Alliance and ‘Alice in Hunterland’ may say about support for repeal and for hunting, the numbers on the ground are telling a very different story. What we are seeing while monitoring hunts are fewer and fewer supporters and followers, fewer meets and an apparent tightening of the proverbial belt. The hunters’ discussion boards (we monitor them in cyberspace as well) tell the same story: falling support for live quarry hunting, and people saying “we can’t carry on like this”.

The steady procession of hunt staff to court is also undermining the morale and the willingness of hunt staff to do their Masters’ bidding. Acting as a fall guy for a group of people who want to put two fingers up to the law on their fun day out isn’t much fun for the staff when the result is a criminal record, a fine and a legal bill plus all the hassle that goes with becoming a convicted criminal.

Bankers, insurers, professional bodies, and in many cases employers take a very dim view of criminal convictions. For the hunts involved, the legal costs of defending a case can be very significant and their insurers will not be keen to pick up the bill if it turns out that the hunt have in effect supported and or condoned acts of illegality. Certainly for those hunts with a blot on their escutcheon, the cost of insurance will probably rise rapidly and the insurer may well demand staff and management changes before agreeing to provide cover for the hunt for the next season.

Hunt supporters, be they followers or land owners, will be thinking twice before letting hunts with a criminal record onto their land, lest they are charged with knowingly allowing or participating in an illegal activity. For professionals, conviction could lead to their professional standards body taking a view with regard to their fitness to practice if they have a criminal record and their insurer may well refuse professional activities cover. By law insurers are not allowed to provide cover for criminal acts.

However reluctant they may be, what the hunters must now accept is that the Hunting Act is here to stay. Repeal is not on the agenda and won’t happen any time soon, if ever. Continuing to hunt illegally is a high risk strategy. Continuing to train hounds to follow live animal scents is a high risk strategy and to continuously expose staff and supporters to the risk of criminal conviction is not a support winning strategy.

Hunting has always been a high visibility activity. You can’t hide a hunt under a bush. You can’t always hide a hunt with a wild animal in the front of it, in some remote corner of a big estate. What the hunters now have to face is a decision of whether to change to legal trail hunting or simply to give up and turn into a purely social club meeting in the local pub to discuss the tales of years gone by.

My Christmas Eve blog about ethical eating and the Christmas meal attracted quite a lot of comment from vegans and vegetarians, who pointed out that in their view there was no such thing as ethical meat eating and that all farming and slaughter involves unnecessary suffering and is therefore by definition cruel.

A recently published book, The End of Food by Paul Roberts, describes the coming crisis in the world food industry. There is no doubt that increasing population and reducing land areas for agriculture in an era of climate change are going to force and drive change to how we farm and what we eat. In terms of the food product from land use, meat from ruminants is one of the least efficient land uses, if cereal production is an option on that land.

The industrialisation of food production processes from the egg to the ovum that turns into a meat producing animal is generating millions of almost genetically identical animals which become standardised products destined for the supermarket shelves. Those processes are the same for the intensively reared game birds, reared in their millions to be used as live targets for shooters.

There are issues which are less widely discussed with regard to intensive cereal production. One of the biggest risks associated with intensive cereal production is of near genetically identical crops. Cereal diseases such as blight mutate with alarming rapidity and crops can be devastated by them. The steps taken to counteract such threats from genetic engineering through to crop spraying can also have significant environmental impacts. Just consider what has happened to the bee population as more and more chemicals have been used in cereal production.

The core issue in terms of food production from a cruel sports perspective is the intent of the person involved in that activity. It seems obvious to me and I am sure to all our supporters that playing with an animal and subjecting it to unnecessary suffering before killing it, is objectionable. It seems equally clear and particularly so to the vegetarians and the vegans, that if it is not possible to breed, rear and kill an animal humanely without it suffering, we should not do that either. The moral and ethical issue as far as hunting and shooting for sport is concerned, is that it is not possible to conduct the activity without causing unnecessary suffering to the animals used as targets for these sports. By that definition such activities should not in our view be allowed because they intentionally cause unnecessary suffering.

Perhaps the most interesting part of the whole debate about the morals and the ethics of what we eat lies in the issues it raises about the use of land and the exploitation of wildlife. In an ever more populous world, choice is going to move from the person to the state. Politicians faced with escalating food prices on the one hand and hunger on the other, are going to lose patience with selfish individuals who demand the right to do what they want, irrespective of the greater good. Freedom of choice in what food to produce and how to produce it in any civilised society, may soon be boundaried, just like hunting and or shooting for sport are, by law. The needs of society as a whole should come before the pleasures and sports of the few.

9 comments

K WATSON
Our magnificent national cricket team achievement in Australia makes the Boxing Day Meet tradition look like the outdated and shabby barbarity that it is. Hunt riders moan on about the cost and nuisance of keeping a horse that has the gall to behave like a horse and more are turning to quad bikes and 4x4's - the logical next step is to drop hunting altogether. Many of the existing Hunts amalgamated in the 1970s, a significant number disbanded in the last few decades - would it really do any harm to draw a line over the whole tradition and promote interest in football, rugby, ice hockey and Test Match cricket in warmer countries?
D Lacey
Maybe we need to guard against complacency - the battle is not over yet. It's when people relax that they are vulnerable to a counter attack. Also, there is anecdotal evidence that the police are not responding to complaints made against hunts. Maybe the Home secretary has told them to back off. How can we persuade the police to attend incidents and charge hunters whenever they break the law?
j stapleton
It was certainly the case around Wilts and Dorset that the freezing weather deterred many hunts over the boxingday and new year period. Our local paper printed a small photo of the predictable redcoat and hounds variety, there were many more pics. of snow scenes and wildbirds which is a hopeful sign. Riverford farm have some worthwhile views on meat eating for people with compassion, the emphasis is on the veg.
dave mcbride
I couldn't agree more with what Douglas has said. I have always thought that hunting, shooting AND fishing are such selfish passtimes with no regard for wildlife. For example, over Xmas when the weather conditions were very cold with snow and ice, I and my partner bought about 20 loaves in Tesco as it was all reduced to clear before they shut for Xmas. The bread was to feed the ducks, swans and gulls on the river in the local park as they were finding things very difficult, in fact on Xmas day I found one young gull had died from cold and hunger and was laying on the ice on the river. Now, bearing in mind this is a small river, only about 15ft wide at this point with a small weir, the next time we went down the river had thawed and there was a man fishing. He had a rod 15ft long which he could dangle his hook a couple of feet from the opposite bank. It also meant all the water birds were trapped between the weir and his rod as they were to afraid to come past it and the banks are too steep to climb out. I said to him is it possible to move down river where it is wider and he wouldn't be causing problems for the birds to getting to food. His attitude was that he had a licence and that it was legal to fish there, and that the ducks had the whole river (even though they couldn't get past his rod to use it). A little while later I saw that he had moved down river and I am sure it is because for the first time he had actually thought about what he was doing and how he was affecting the waterbirds survival, and only because I had pointed out their dilemna. I appreciate not all fishermen are selfish, but this one certainly seemed to care only about his pleasure. I doubt he was fishing for survival and if he caught nothing he could always pick up something from a shop on the way home ...unfortunately for wild birds and animals they don't have that choice.
Lorna
So the idiots that voted for Tory candidates solely because they promised a repeal of the Hunting Act as soon as they were elected are "hurt and baffled" according to the Telegraph. Diddums. More fool them for believing the claims. If only all their animal victims could feel nothing more than a little let down and annoyed.
Tony Barsby
I agree with the comment about the danger of complacency, made by D Lacey. It is a thought that is constantly in my mind. Can we please have a LACS response to the question raised by D Lacey in the last sentence of his contribution.
John Wilson
It is clear that public opinion has become firmer in it's oppostion to hunting with dogs. There is ample evidence of this. Recent opinion polls, done by Ipsos Mori and others, show it. The fact that a vote in a Tory dominated Parliament to repeal the Hunting Act would fail shows it. The letters in my local paper ( the Newcastle Journal ) show it. When I first started writing anti hunt letters to the paper 13 years ago the majority of letters published on the issue were from people in favour of hunting. On one occasion the entire letters page was devoted to pro - hunt letters. Now the great majority of letters oppose hunting with dogs. However, when my letters describe aspects of hunting with which the public are not familiar - training hounds by chasing fox cubs, captive breeding of foxes, blocking off badger setts to prolong the chase etc - they do not get published. This shift in public opinion has been done despite most of the press opposing the Hunting Act. With the exception of the Mirror all the national papers opposed the Hunting Bill. Even centre left papers such as The Guardian opposed it. Virtually no political columnists supported a ban on hunting. Not Polly Toynbee or Jackie Ashley or any of the other Guardian journalists who consider themselves on the left. Anti's had to make do with the odd piece written by Roy Hattersley. The BBC do their best to support hunting. Never have I heard a BBC interviewer put it to a hunt activist that it is wrong and cruel to watch terrified wild animals being chased across the countryside by packs of dogs and then to ghoulishly watch as the creature is ripped to pieces. It is typical that the editors of the recent Countryfile programme on the Hunting Act did not use film provided by the League that clearly showed the hunting laws being broken. Repetition works. Eventually the message sinks in. It is wrong to chase wild animals with packs of dogs. That this is done in the name of recreation is obscene.
Lorna
The BBC news website is marginally less biased on animal welfare issues but most of their television programmes, especially Countryfile, are very much pro-hunt/cull and tend to show a ridiculously one-sided argument. The media generally focuses on the negative aspects of animal activism (such as extremism) and too often portray the perpetrators of animal cruelty as the 'victims' of violent protesters. Balanced debates that allow both sides to have equal say and the inclusion of rational arguments based on expert knowledge, scientific evidence, etc. from both those in support of and against the issue don't make good entertainment and ultimately that's all the BBC and other media organisations are interested in. You only have to look at the way the papers and news programmes also love to dwell on Islamic extremism despite the fact the vast majority of Muslims are not conspiring to kill or even harm the rest of us. It’s a shame so many journalists are happy to distort the truth.
richard sole
Being a member of several shooting/conservation forums i have noticed an increase of posts made by people who claim to represent the welfare of "the planet" Yes i try to do my best to re cycle, yes i like all creatures. yes i do enjoy shooting. Not all people who shoot a gun want to kill a living creature(i personally enjoy clay target shooting) I wonder now after reading many posts on many forums just who is the worst! I feel some of your members take a drastic and underhand approach to address a situation they don't either understand or agree with.

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